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What Ana Navarro Said to Bryan Lanza About Trump’s Springfield Pet-Eating Claim

On a September 11, 2024 CNN panel, Ana Navarro challenged Bryan Lanza over Trump’s claim about Haitian immigrants and pets in Springfield. Local officials said they had no credible reports supporting it.
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Ana Navarro called Donald Trump’s claim about Haitian immigrants and pets in Springfield, Ohio, “incredibly racist and incredibly dangerous” during a CNN panel on September 11, 2024. She was responding to Trump’s debate remark the night before and to Trump campaign representative Bryan Lanza, who challenged the panel’s account of local officials’ statements.

What Navarro said during the CNN exchange

On CNN NewsNight, anchor Abby Phillip was discussing Trump’s claim that Haitian immigrants in Springfield were eating residents’ pets. Lanza disputed how the panel characterized local officials’ statements and cited a claimed rise in neighborhood crime. Navarro said the rumor had already been debunked and warned against amplifying it.

Navarro’s words were: “This is, though, maybe funny to some people. A lot of people have done funny memes. It’s also incredibly racist and incredibly dangerous.” She also called it “a completely made up story about somebody eating a cat and it turning into a Haitian immigrant.” Those descriptions express Navarro’s argument about the rumor and its effects; they are not neutral labels from a transcript narrator. Read the September 11 CNN transcript.

What Trump had said about Springfield

During the September 10 presidential debate, Trump said: “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating the cats. They’re eating, they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.” The following night’s CNN discussion addressed that allegation and the reaction to its circulation.

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PolitiFact’s September 11 fact-check reported that Springfield spokesperson Karen Graves, the mayor and city police said claims that Haitian immigrants were stealing and eating residents’ pets were unfounded. Graves said there were “no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.” PolitiFact rated Trump’s statement “Pants on Fire!” and reported that the rumor appeared to trace to an unverified, secondhand Facebook post.

What Springfield officials and police reported

FactCheck.org’s September 11 account likewise reported that Springfield police said they had no credible reports or specific claims supporting the pet allegation. It also cited a similar account from city manager Bryan Heck to ABC News on September 9. The social-media material described by the fact-checkers was not a firsthand account.

The careful conclusion is about what officials reported: they said they had no credible or specific claims of pets being harmed by people in the immigrant community. That contemporaneous record does not establish a universal negative about every possible incident; it does not substantiate the broad allegation made in the debate.

What Lanza and the mayor said about other claims

In the CNN panel exchange, Lanza attributed a 130 percent crime increase to the police chief. The reviewed transcript captures his attribution, but the figure is not independently verified by the sources cited here. It should therefore be treated as Lanza’s claim, not as an established statistic.

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In a CNN interview on September 12, Springfield Mayor Rob Rue said the city had experienced a 20% to 25% population increase over three years and that infrastructure was under strain. Those figures and remarks are Rue’s account in the interview, not independently verified census or infrastructure data. Rue also said the pet rumors were untrue and told viewers that pets were safe in Springfield. Read the September 12 CNN interview transcript.

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Why the distinction matters

The episode brought together three different things: Trump’s allegation, local officials’ statements that they had received no credible reports supporting it, and the political panelists’ interpretations of the rumor and other conditions in Springfield. Keeping them separate clarifies what the contemporary record supports: officials said the pet-eating claim was unfounded, while Lanza’s crime statistic and Rue’s population figures remain attributed statements rather than independently established numbers in these accounts.

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