The second part in Richard Dawkin’s incredible look into the plague that is faith and religion in our modern society. A stark look at the place of religion in the enlightened modern day. This documentary has a particular focus on the effect organized religion has on children. Well worth a watch.
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Sean Teller
Jan 18, 2008 1:44
People who share religious views keep trying to force everyone else to believe in those particular views. Most religiouns have some sort of “recruitment process”, you can see that in this video. All Christians just kept their faith and religious messages to themselves as the bible SAYS they should. But religions trying to legislate their warped views (e.g. termination/abortion, homosexual marriage and contraception) affect every single one of us. Keep your religion to yourself!
rafael
Mar 16, 2008 2:30
Nice video. I am surprised though that he never interviewed a Muslim person nor quoted from the Quran where similar awful passages can be found in abundance. Why is that? And what about Hinduism? Buddhism? Pagan religions? Does he mean faith as a virus only for the Judeo-Christian tradition? I would totally agree with that.
David
May 4, 2008 13:48
I like very much the end conclusion ,
The video was good , I find the narator a litle bit selfish He gives no chance to his victimes ( bishops …etc ) he’s only open to one side.
We found more religion in poor countries , the narator doesn’t see to have been in …
Moderne thinking about life and religion donsn’t come easly , but the merderne stype of life impose it ,
Sara
May 11, 2008 23:43
He is so close-minded and hypocritical! I have to laugh at how he keeps using words like”rational” and “objective” to describe his own hatred of faith, all the while advocating an education system that would teach children only his atheist views! It’s amazing and deeply disturbing how blind he is to his own hypocrisy!
Patrick
Jun 15, 2008 14:47
I beieve many of the biblical examples Dawkins used to show how the Christian-Judean God is cruel were presented in a biased way.
For example, in the book of Judges 19:24, it does indeed revealed how it was traditional to protect a guest at all cost… even if it meant allowing your daughter to be perpetrated by perverts. But just because it is stated that this was so, does not mean that the Christian-Judean God condones it?! Dawkins incorrectly assumed that this passage is reflective of the character of the Christian-Judean God when it is clearly not. These two men (in this passage) have clearly disobeyed God’s law by allowing deliberate abuse and murder of women and are certainly not role models of the faith.
It is my beleif that the bible is consistent in its portrayal of a loving God who ultimately showed his ultimate love through the sacrifice of his only son Jesus Christ. Dawkins needs to read the bible more carefully before makng such bold statements
yin mik
Jul 6, 2008 11:25
Unfortunately it appears that Professor Dawkins is fighting a losing battle. It is clear to me, and I believe most rational minds, that ALL religious belief, especially blind faith, is a form of mental disorder. I have NEVER heard a logical and convincing argument in defence of religion, that does not have to resort to the ‘faith’ argument. I am afraid I despair that otherwise seemingly intelligent people can believe in a God. Devout Muslims, Catholics, Jews etc….. all of them, are mentally ill and the fact that they indoctrinate their children is simply a form of child abuse which is instilling their madness in to the next generation and perpetuating the ‘disease’.
e148
Jul 11, 2008 12:55
The God of the Old Testament is a cruel God. Eye for an eye for example and a death for a death would follow from that. God was not loving to the Egyptians. He was not loving to the Jews (his chosen people) for at least 40 years, at the time of Moses.
God is a jealous God is explicitly stated several times in the Bible. (Thou shall have no other God . . .). But God is Love and one of the tenants of love is not to demand to have your own way. A contradiction. Granted the former is Old Testament and the latter is New Testament. But still a contradiction in the overall picture.
Jealousy is a human trait. Are we made in his image or the other way around?
By the way how can God be called he or father? These say that God has some limitations but “he” does not. A male/man has limitations does he not?
All religions claim that killing is wrong. Thou shalt not kill. But more deaths have been attributed to religion than for any other reason. WWII, for example, was fought because Hitler wanted Europe under one religion (his–Astrology based). He wanted Jews and others exterminated/purged from Europe. Some others include the Crusades, the witch hunts, Spanish Inquisitions, any war over the Godless Communists, etc.
Brainwashing our children from birth is wrong. God gives us a choice but apparently religion does not.
By the way Hell is just the grave, nothing else. It is not a place your soul goes to but a place where your body goes. But religion ties to paint it as a physical place where the Devil lives and where people burn for all eternity.
Edaurdo Jones
Dec 18, 2008 7:16
He some it all up in the last sentence of the film!
kerri-ann bennett
Feb 8, 2009 4:58
What a sad display of intolerance! How much different is his attitude from that of the religious leaders he so obviously and palpably despises? Everyone has a freedom to choose the life which best suits them. Some choose religion, some choose other things. Crimes have been committed in the name of religion. Crimes too have been committed in the name of science…
kathy
Feb 11, 2009 19:25
Dios es amor
Richard
Mar 8, 2009 21:05
How sad it is that religion has inspired people to do good and create such beauty on one hand and inspired people to execute mankinds’ most heinous and the ugliest deeds on the other. Shockingly, all based on a fairy tale.
Tim
Mar 11, 2009 12:10
Being of a very similar viewpoint to the maker of this film, I find it surprising how little I liked these two documentaries overall. The attitude he displays when addressing either the viewer or a religious person does not really provide for any useful or positive result. And while I understand its not easy to back up arguments with lots of facts in a documentary, he uses very little if any, seemingly assuming the audience already knows all the facts he bases his claims and conclusions on, which is not in my mind the sign of a productive film.
I believe this film can only go so far as to have people who already agree with him give a thumbs up. For those he should be trying to reach, whether devout or unsure, his arrogant attitude only serves to push them away and anger them.
Do I agree with him and understand why he feels the way he does? Yes. But do I think this film is productive or that he will make any progress in what needs to be done? Not at all.
estrella
Mar 22, 2009 10:42
an argument is only as strong as its strongest refutation.
thus, it appears quite biased and in some kind of sense lazy to base his views on the most fudamentalistic representatives of abrahametic religions. after enlightenment and with reference to the results and progress of natrual science it is not difficult to oppose to the ideas and believes of any conservative, religious sect!
the religious studies taught at universities within the department of humanities however are totally different from that. they (have to) work, teach and think interdisciplinary. outcomes of natrual science and liberal, religious faith don’t have to be diametral after all - rationally and phenomenologically, theistic as well as atheistic positions can be made equally plausible, but not in this totally superfical approach!!! i guess his attempt to make people awear of possible manipulation and prejudice (especialy in education programms) is quite creditable, but this narrow-minded, one-sided and shallow way of examination lacks scientific method and proceeding. thus, it is probably not going to affect any person who reflects, conceives or thinks only a little further then to the obvious. this documentary is quite disappointing.
Hungry
Apr 11, 2009 7:45
I would like to know how many people this guy ever helped in his life, of whom he knew that they would never be able to repay him. He has missed the whole thing about religion. Religion is important in our society. It teach us how to get along with one-another and how to be tolerant of things that we don’t agree with and so on. (Offcourse some people get it wrong) If you look at the meaning of the story instead of the story itself you find the purpose of religion. The story is basically a vehicle of the meaning. Some people have to be taught by example and that is what the story is all about. Teaching by example. Being true or not, Jesus existed or not, has nothing to do with anything. You can disregard the story but learn the meaning and live by it and you will be saved. Meaning, you will not destroy yourself. You will know what to do in your toughest hour and make the right choices with compassion towards others. Religion has helped and given to more people in this world than science. These scientists have such a big mouth while they live and work in a society that was built on religion. Just look what science done to our planet. Destruction everywhere. Killing animals, trees, people, economies all in the name of science. Everything that is human; culture, art, music, etc. has been given to us by religion.
You see, usually religious people are not taught to retaliate and stick up for themselves because they supposed to be tolerant. Usually they lose it and throw a bible at ya, but I’m not religious but I believe God and the meaning and importance of religion, I find it a better thing to follow then a blind and empty scientist who has attracted a brain disease from all the study of science.
Mate… all these years of study, YOU HAVE LEARNED NOTHING…
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