Armenia: The Betrayed


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This 2002 documentary shows the horrors of the Armenian genocide and the lengths that the Turkish government goes to cover it up. It shows both the historical and modern politics around the genocide and is extremely informative. Be advised there are several gruesome scenes.

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Iulian Jinga
Aug 11, 2009 18:42

Turkey is a monster! I had always been a monster, since the Middle Ages. All they did was to sack, and kill, everywhere they went. Nothing was enough for them. They were, and still are, greedy as hell. To hell with them…

mustafa
Aug 28, 2009 14:51

This video is so misleading and the Turkish point of wiev is disregarded. Turkish land was occupied by many nations at the time, and the armenians cooperated with the invaders. So the government had to take the necessary precautions, and the banishment was one of the ways. One another point, there is a saying in Turkish culture “armenian cruelty” There are lots of mothers telling massacres of armenians, not just one. I mean there were conditions of war at the time, however, this doesn’t mean killing the defenseless people but this doesn’t mean coordinating with the invaders and betraying your own government’s army which had been your army for hundreds of years.
And the westerns and allegedly humanists!
Are you interested in genocide, so I invite you to see the real genocide in Iraqı thousand of kilometers away from America.
The unity and togetherness of some societies irritates America and it tries to dissolve comunities.

dilara
Sep 13, 2009 21:05

Mr or Mrs or Miss Jinga whatever

please don`t criticise Turkey and Turkish people, you can`t insult us! before criticising, make sure you know how you can criticise any event of history. afterthat you must read all of documents of Turkish and Armenian archives and the other historical documents. Do you understand??? by the way we are not monsters we are just a country which has a very big history…

rewardme
Oct 1, 2009 1:35

how can i take a documentary seriously when within the first 2 minutes a false quote ( proven to never have been spoken by Hitler” is prominently displayed? i take no sides on this issue, ive actually watched it twice on various forums, but the false quote should definitely put your radar up.

cihan
Oct 9, 2009 18:05

You can not understand a historical event without knowing situation at that time. And this documentary says nothing about situation of Turkey at that time.

Genocide is a term created after second world war which means Halocoust. So this term can not be applied the events before WWII.

I personally admit there was a massacre and tragedy, however it is definitely not a genocide against a nation. Armenians living in east of Turkey where is under danger of Russian invasion were deported. Armenians in İstanbul or western part of Turkey have not been affected by the deportation law.

PS. Armenian church in Akdamar,Van has been restorated by Turkish Government

BARIŞ
Nov 5, 2009 14:03

If we Turks committed genocide why doesn’t Armenian government go to the international courts?They can’t and they won’t.Because if they lose the case they have to pay the penalty and they are hundred percent sure that they would lose.Armenians think that everybody in Turkey want to kill them actually most of the Armenians are racist and stubborn.The only think they can do is telling a tale which is nothing but a nonsense.I can understand them we have a very beautiful and powerful country,they have nothing and as a result they are green with envy.No matter how hard you try you will always live in such a poor condition

altay
Nov 10, 2009 3:06

first of all if you look at the history books of all archives armenian people that lived at the ottoman time had a title as the loyal ones. But when the end time came for ottoman empire first local gangs and rebeletion acts which are responsible of killing not only turks but also the loyal citizen of ottoman empire who are from different kind countries and etnich identities are made by armenians.

The reason of these kinds of documents is money! What armenian goverment is trying to do is obvious. They want to claim money. A money which is similar that payed by germany because of their genocide at ww2. The formal answer to this accusation was already made by turkish goverment. Turkish goverment simply said ” Lets establised an organization to look into this case. We open our archives and we offer armanian people to open theirs to public. Not a limited acess but a full one. ” Of course the answer to this suggestion was no immediately. Becouse armenian goverment already know that they are wrong. They are also puppets of greek as they were at the saviour war of turks. Which turkey has beated not only greeks but also the countries that has plan in their lands.

Turkey is still answering politely by restorating armenian churches and doing some other stuff to help them live in turkey. But these are not published by armenian media. Europian nation which claim to support armenia in their case is lying. All the legal research and reports that they published explains that if turkey wont come a member of the europian nations. This society of europians can only last for another ten years. Every resonable scientest who had knowledge about world and geography knows it! And if turkey attend to another union or actually establish one from the begining people of europe will loose all of their economic previliges as they have started now.

So stop being racist stop being ignorant and stop being a puppet of a bigger plan that will bring your end. Turkish land has a very big and long history. Which includes much more than ottoman empires history. So as every strategic view and report shows we turks will wait patiently for another ten years for your organization to collapse than we will rise again and dont worry we will notharm you we will forgive you!

Also the last country that sould talk about human rights is america. Thats becouse there is still execution law and also the ıraqian war which their reasons proven as a lie. And the law of weapon. None of these exist in turkey. Our women walk in the streets more confidently than yours if you compare the rape ratings of the two countries. Also compare the murders theivery, assinations and go on. Except it we are more civilazed than you!!

Hamid
Nov 18, 2009 12:27

I can honestly say the Turkish government back then did killed millions of Armenian.
Turkey has a corrupted government today and Turkey is a sex holiday for millions of westerners
Every Turkish claims to be Muslim but that’s not true a true Muslim country will never become a sex holiday spot they are liars and thief; I guess you can only blame the government for this. Yet they want to become part of European Union which is very unlikely to happen in near future.

Iulian Jinga
Dec 5, 2009 17:32

I was talking in general, about Turkey as a political power. I don’t talk about every citizen, but I know well what Turkey did during the history. I know because I studied history, and because I live in a country which was oppressed by the Otoman Empire for over 350 years. I know how many children were taken from they mothers and raised to be soldiers and later to kill their own biological parents, how many people died to defend their countries against the otoman invaders, how much gold they stoled and I can give hundreds of examples. I don’t say they didn’t do anything good, but they provoked too much suffering. The past is gone, but we shouldn’t forget. That’s all. Don’t forget what you did in the past, before you think you are so great.

dana
Dec 10, 2009 13:22

While I cannot comment on the quality of the documentary from a historical point of view, since i am not a historian myself, nor I believe the documentary to be an exhaustive evidence of the subject in case, I am truly annoyed with the comments of some of the previous viewers. I am not taking sides, trust me, I am not by far of Mr. Jinga’s opinion and I am not condemning the whole Turkish people for what happened then, since not all of them took part in those tragic events. I feel sympathetic towards the Armenians in the same way I would feel sympathetic toward a people that lost a million or more of its members through no fault of their own (by the way, the figures I got from history books, not from this documentary alone). However, I am outraged that citizens of a modern Turkey that strive to be accepted by the European Union and that ask not to be misjudged are still believing a 100 year old propaganda that blamed the misfortune of the Ottoman Empire on the Armenians alone. The Ottoman Empire died because it was its time to die. It was a corrupt decadent empire where human rights were overlooked, where many people, including Turks, had to suffer. It is true some of the Armenian exponents sought the help of the Foreign Powers in order to obtain independence. However they did not start a war against Turks and the genocide (yes, the term applies even before wwII - it applies always in the case of massacres of this genre) that followed was not justified. Just think that out of the one million dead Armenian, more than half were women and children that had absolutely no involvement in the political situation of the time. It does not harm you as modern Turks to admit your own history, it does not paint you as monsters. The sons are not guilty for the faults of their parents, whatever the Bible might say. I have roots in a people that exerted many more genocides than that of the Armenians (half of the Chinese people, for example, almost the whole population of the Persian Empire, the razing of Baghdad, etc). I am not denying them, nor do I try to excuse them. They happened for a reason, in some cases lust for power, in other cases irrational fears, I admit that, but not because I find those reasons do I deny their very occurrence. Learn to accept your own history and you’ll get the advantage of recognising the danger of irrational thinking when it comes to human lives. You wouldnt want in the future that some irrational fears or motives of a stronger people than your own to contribute to the wiping of your people. Just dont forget the lust of the Russians for your straights. Imagine what would happen if for some reason the whole Russian people would be manipulated into killing the Turks? I see some of you still dream of a Turkish Empire and wish that the EU collapses? what moral right do you think you have over parts of Europe? dont you have enough land in Turkey?

andy
Dec 21, 2009 5:40

The saying amongst the survivors is that ‘to deny genocide is to die twice’. They didn’t die so how could they die twice?

dana
Dec 21, 2009 18:40

Andy, ask the survivors from Auschwitz or those from the gulag (few as they are still left) if they managed to view life the same way as before? imagine just that the whole of your family is wiped out and only you survive: how would you feel? Auschwitz survivors at least had the comfort of being able to tell their tales and not be branded as a lie (in spite of the tiny minority denying holocaust). would you have the guts to ask your questions to one of those old people from the video? i bet you wouldn’t… my own personal experience: i have met some 20 years ago a soldier captured by the Russians and sent for 25 years to Kolima, to work in the copper mines. It was amazing that he managed to survive for all that time. But since he had returned, he had spent all his time closed in his own world, not talking to anyone any more, not responding, barely eating, unable to work. he was for all effects a living dead. and his was a personal tragedy, no one in his family had been harmed…

BARIŞ
Dec 23, 2009 16:14

I won’t reply emails that are full of racism and hatred.We don’t deny our history.For those of you who don’t want to understand because of various reasons we just say that if you have a proof to prove your claim then please show it to us.How can you prove it?There must be more than bed time stories to convince us. There must be official documents from that time,there must be mass graves.Where the fuck are they?Have you gone mad?

BARIŞ
Dec 23, 2009 16:30

Hamid we don’t need your confirmation to say that we are Muslims.You are right ,in Turkey everybody has the right to choose and practice his or her religion and we have some people who don’t believe in Allah and they have the same rights with us.I can imagine that you have difficulties to understand us and I’m not angry with you.If I was living in a country where people are forced to pray and where people who have different ideas murdered just because of their beliefs I would be as bewildered as you are.As a nation we had been waiting for your amazing idea about genocide(!) thanks for your guidence Hamid the great:)))

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